Checked builds in a VM?

Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
(VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
(tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)

Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.

I have failed terribly in the past… Tried with Windows 7 and 2008 R2 on
both VmWare and Hyper-V. Checked build seems to have a mind of its own. The
installation itself failed with bug checks. :slight_smile: While it failed sometimes, it
did install other times.
So, then I moved to using checked build only on physical machine only. But
who likes that.

Regards,
Ayush Gupta
Software Consultant & Owner,
AI Consulting

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:07 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
(VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
(tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)

Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com) http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


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Hi Dejan,

I was able to install a full checked build on a VM but, I had to connect the WinDbg to it during the installation, since I was getting some BSOD during the installation. You can do it just pressing F8 during its very first boot. (after getting some files copied from the media, I guess)

As far as I can remember, there were some ASSERTs that I had to ignore.

Good luck!

Fernando Roberto da Silva
DriverEntry Kernel Development
http://www.driverentry.com.br/en

Testing on a physical machine? Not again :wink: I’ll stick to using a few debug images only if I can’t get them to
work :wink:
Maybe VPC would work? Anyone?

Ayush Gupta wrote:

I have failed terribly in the past… Tried with Windows 7 and 2008 R2 on
both VmWare and Hyper-V. Checked build seems to have a mind of its own. The
installation itself failed with bug checks. :slight_smile: While it failed sometimes, it
did install other times.
So, then I moved to using checked build only on physical machine only. But
who likes that.

Regards,
Ayush Gupta
Software Consultant & Owner,
AI Consulting

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:07 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
(VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
(tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)

Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com) http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


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File system audit, security and encryption kits.

Most recently, yes - Win7 (RTM) x64 CHK in VMWare Workstation 7.1.3-324285
(as well as a few 7.1.x-xxxx previous builds.

Overall, I’d have to say that this success was a fairly exceptional case, if
memory serves me correctly. I’ve had issues more often than not, especially
with older builds of the os, though if I recall correctly, that was usually
due to the same chk ACPI bugcheck that’s been around for years on some
platforms.

I haven’t yet tried with W7SP1.

What are you seeing?

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:37 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
(VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
(tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)

Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


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Indeed there are boatloads of asserts, but that’s not at all unique to the
VM experience, in my opinion. All part of the CHK experience.

mm
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
xxxxx@driverentry.com.br
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:43 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: RE:[ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Hi Dejan,

I was able to install a full checked build on a VM but, I had to connect the
WinDbg to it during the installation, since I was getting some BSOD during
the installation. You can do it just pressing F8 during its very first boot.
(after getting some files copied from the media, I guess)

As far as I can remember, there were some ASSERTs that I had to ignore.

Good luck!

Fernando Roberto da Silva
DriverEntry Kernel Development
http://www.driverentry.com.br/en


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The checked build has some ACPI asserts that are quite sensitive and
probably wrong. Since XP I have not been able to install on any system
without Windbg connected to continue through these asserts.

Also, be aware that much of the testing code (for instance DTM and
before that HCT’s) does not work properly on the checked build. The
install of these items triggers so many asserts the install fails.

Don Burn (MVP, Windows DKD)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr

“Ayush Gupta” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntfsd:

> I have failed terribly in the past… Tried with Windows 7 and 2008 R2 on
> both VmWare and Hyper-V. Checked build seems to have a mind of its own. The
> installation itself failed with bug checks. :slight_smile: While it failed sometimes, it
> did install other times.
> So, then I moved to using checked build only on physical machine only. But
> who likes that.
>
> Regards,
> Ayush Gupta
> Software Consultant & Owner,
> AI Consulting
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:07 PM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?
>
>
> Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
> (VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
> (tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)
>
> Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.
>
> –
> Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com) http://www.alfasp.com
> File system audit, security and encryption kits.
>
>
>
> —
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IIRC, I had better luck with Hyper-V while installing checked build OS. Did
you try Hyper-V?

Regards,
Ayush Gupta
Software Consultant & Owner,
AI Consulting

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:14 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Testing on a physical machine? Not again :wink: I’ll stick to using a few
debug images only if I can’t get them to work :wink:
Maybe VPC would work? Anyone?

Ayush Gupta wrote:

I have failed terribly in the past… Tried with Windows 7 and 2008 R2
on both VmWare and Hyper-V. Checked build seems to have a mind of its
own. The installation itself failed with bug checks. :slight_smile: While it
failed sometimes, it did install other times.
So, then I moved to using checked build only on physical machine only.
But who likes that.

Regards,
Ayush Gupta
Software Consultant & Owner,
AI Consulting

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan
Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:07 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
(VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
(tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)

Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com File system audit, security and encryption kits.


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Don, right during the start of the installation of the OS, how did you get
to attach Windbg?

And yes, you are so very right about installing anything else under checked
build OS. It feels as if the installation was not at all built for the OS;
you just get too many ASSERTs.

Regards,
Ayush Gupta
Software Consultant & Owner,
AI Consulting

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Don Burn
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:18 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: RE:[ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

The checked build has some ACPI asserts that are quite sensitive and
probably wrong. Since XP I have not been able to install on any system
without Windbg connected to continue through these asserts.

Also, be aware that much of the testing code (for instance DTM and before
that HCT’s) does not work properly on the checked build. The install of
these items triggers so many asserts the install fails.

Don Burn (MVP, Windows DKD)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr

“Ayush Gupta” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntfsd:

> I have failed terribly in the past… Tried with Windows 7 and 2008 R2
> on both VmWare and Hyper-V. Checked build seems to have a mind of its
> own. The installation itself failed with bug checks. :slight_smile: While it
> failed sometimes, it did install other times.
> So, then I moved to using checked build only on physical machine only.
> But who likes that.
>
> Regards,
> Ayush Gupta
> Software Consultant & Owner,
> AI Consulting
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan
> Maksimovic
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:07 PM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?
>
>
> Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
> (VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
> (tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)
>
> Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.
>
> –
> Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
> http://www.alfasp.com File system audit, security and encryption kits.
>
>
>
> —
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An 0x8E with 0xC0000420 (ASSERTS) bugcheck. Getting WinDBG to run with these VMs is not working out for me (it’s
also not always working for any VM on this computer for some reason).
I could sometimes get past it, but after I get a license verification error 0x80070002, which indicates either a
boot drive letter was changed (nope…) or that the default cryptography provider is changed (again… it just got
installed :D). That one I can’t get passed :frowning: (the Microsoft\Cryptography key mentioned in several articles does not
exist yet).

Dejan.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

Most recently, yes - Win7 (RTM) x64 CHK in VMWare Workstation 7.1.3-324285
(as well as a few 7.1.x-xxxx previous builds.

Overall, I’d have to say that this success was a fairly exceptional case, if
memory serves me correctly. I’ve had issues more often than not, especially
with older builds of the os, though if I recall correctly, that was usually
due to the same chk ACPI bugcheck that’s been around for years on some
platforms.

I haven’t yet tried with W7SP1.

What are you seeing?

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:37 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
(VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
(tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)

Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


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http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.

Other stuff not working on the debug builds does not frighten me, rather I wish to run some tests with a
complete debug system.
It’s “good” to see it’s a common issue.

Don Burn wrote:

The checked build has some ACPI asserts that are quite sensitive and
probably wrong. Since XP I have not been able to install on any system
without Windbg connected to continue through these asserts.

Also, be aware that much of the testing code (for instance DTM and
before that HCT’s) does not work properly on the checked build. The
install of these items triggers so many asserts the install fails.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.

I’d have to install another OS for that, and run it :frowning: Plus if it doesn’t fully work on it, it won’t matter.

Ayush Gupta wrote:

IIRC, I had better luck with Hyper-V while installing checked build OS. Did
you try Hyper-V?


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.

Hmm. I’ve definitely gotten that one - the license error - before as well,
but I don’t remember what I did about it, which makes me strongly think that
I just gave up and went with a partial chk build.

Sorry I don’t have better.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:08 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

An 0x8E with 0xC0000420 (ASSERTS) bugcheck. Getting WinDBG to run with
these VMs is not working out for me (it’s
also not always working for any VM on this computer for some reason).
I could sometimes get past it, but after I get a license verification
error 0x80070002, which indicates either a
boot drive letter was changed (nope…) or that the default cryptography
provider is changed (again… it just got
installed :D). That one I can’t get passed :frowning: (the Microsoft\Cryptography
key mentioned in several articles does not
exist yet).

Dejan.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

Most recently, yes - Win7 (RTM) x64 CHK in VMWare Workstation 7.1.3-324285
(as well as a few 7.1.x-xxxx previous builds.

Overall, I’d have to say that this success was a fairly exceptional case,
if
memory serves me correctly. I’ve had issues more often than not,
especially
with older builds of the os, though if I recall correctly, that was
usually
due to the same chk ACPI bugcheck that’s been around for years on some
platforms.

I haven’t yet tried with W7SP1.

What are you seeing?

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:37 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
(VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
(tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)

Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


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On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 14:48 +0000, Don Burn wrote:

The checked build has some ACPI asserts that are quite sensitive and
probably wrong. Since XP I have not been able to install on any system
without Windbg connected to continue through these asserts.

Vista seems to have some trouble with the IPv6 DHCP client too, which
has been fixed in 7.

I don’t think I’ve run a full checked build in a VM yet, but with
VirtualBox the key thing is to not install the VM tools because
vboxsf.sys tries to close an invalid file handle when booting.


Bruce Cran

On 2003 and XP you can edit txtmode.sif see my paper
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=264 on 2003 and later
systems F8 works, you just have to be careful because they have changed
the baudrate depending on the OS. I’ve only used it a couple of times,
but Windows setup has switches to enable the debugger see
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766446(WS.10).aspx

Don Burn (MVP, Windows DKD)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr

“Ayush Gupta” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntfsd:

> Don, right during the start of the installation of the OS, how did you get
> to attach Windbg?
>
> And yes, you are so very right about installing anything else under checked
> build OS. It feels as if the installation was not at all built for the OS;
> you just get too many ASSERTs.
>
> Regards,
> Ayush Gupta
> Software Consultant & Owner,
> AI Consulting
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Don Burn
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:18 PM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: RE:[ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?
>
> The checked build has some ACPI asserts that are quite sensitive and
> probably wrong. Since XP I have not been able to install on any system
> without Windbg connected to continue through these asserts.
>
> Also, be aware that much of the testing code (for instance DTM and before
> that HCT’s) does not work properly on the checked build. The install of
> these items triggers so many asserts the install fails.
>
>
> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DKD)
> Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> Website: http://www.windrvr.com
> Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
>
>
>
>
> “Ayush Gupta” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntfsd:
>
> > I have failed terribly in the past… Tried with Windows 7 and 2008 R2
> > on both VmWare and Hyper-V. Checked build seems to have a mind of its
> > own. The installation itself failed with bug checks. :slight_smile: While it
> > failed sometimes, it did install other times.
> > So, then I moved to using checked build only on physical machine only.
> > But who likes that.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ayush Gupta
> > Software Consultant & Owner,
> > AI Consulting
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan
> > Maksimovic
> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:07 PM
> > To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> > Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?
> >
> >
> > Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
> > (VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
> > (tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)
> >
> > Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.
> >
> > –
> > Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
> > http://www.alfasp.com File system audit, security and encryption kits.
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > NTFSD is sponsored by OSR
> >
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> > http://www.osr.com/seminars
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No problem, I’ve spent a day trying to get several builds to work, but seeing other were not successful at least
partially solves the issue - I’ll let it go.
Thanks all.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

Hmm. I’ve definitely gotten that one - the license error - before as well,
but I don’t remember what I did about it, which makes me strongly think that
I just gave up and went with a partial chk build.

Sorry I don’t have better.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:08 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

An 0x8E with 0xC0000420 (ASSERTS) bugcheck. Getting WinDBG to run with
these VMs is not working out for me (it’s
also not always working for any VM on this computer for some reason).
I could sometimes get past it, but after I get a license verification
error 0x80070002, which indicates either a
boot drive letter was changed (nope…) or that the default cryptography
provider is changed (again… it just got
installed :D). That one I can’t get passed :frowning: (the Microsoft\Cryptography
key mentioned in several articles does not
exist yet).

Dejan.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

> Most recently, yes - Win7 (RTM) x64 CHK in VMWare Workstation 7.1.3-324285
> (as well as a few 7.1.x-xxxx previous builds.
>
> Overall, I’d have to say that this success was a fairly exceptional case,
if
> memory serves me correctly. I’ve had issues more often than not,
especially
> with older builds of the os, though if I recall correctly, that was
usually
> due to the same chk ACPI bugcheck that’s been around for years on some
> platforms.
>
> I haven’t yet tried with W7SP1.
>
> What are you seeing?
>
> mm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:37 AM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?
>
> Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
> (VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
> (tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)
>
> Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.
>
> –
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> http://www.alfasp.com
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Probably the best plan, or at least a very popular one.

I’m installing x86_64-win7sp-chk right now in that same version of VMWare;
I’ll let you know how it goes.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:14 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

No problem, I’ve spent a day trying to get several builds to work, but
seeing other were not successful at least
partially solves the issue - I’ll let it go.
Thanks all.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

Hmm. I’ve definitely gotten that one - the license error - before as
well,
but I don’t remember what I did about it, which makes me strongly think
that
I just gave up and went with a partial chk build.

Sorry I don’t have better.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:08 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

An 0x8E with 0xC0000420 (ASSERTS) bugcheck. Getting WinDBG to run with
these VMs is not working out for me (it’s
also not always working for any VM on this computer for some reason).
I could sometimes get past it, but after I get a license verification
error 0x80070002, which indicates either a
boot drive letter was changed (nope…) or that the default cryptography
provider is changed (again… it just got
installed :D). That one I can’t get passed :frowning: (the Microsoft\Cryptography
key mentioned in several articles does not
exist yet).

Dejan.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

> Most recently, yes - Win7 (RTM) x64 CHK in VMWare Workstation
7.1.3-324285
> (as well as a few 7.1.x-xxxx previous builds.
>
> Overall, I’d have to say that this success was a fairly exceptional
case,
if
> memory serves me correctly. I’ve had issues more often than not,
especially
> with older builds of the os, though if I recall correctly, that was
usually
> due to the same chk ACPI bugcheck that’s been around for years on some
> platforms.
>
> I haven’t yet tried with W7SP1.
>
> What are you seeing?
>
> mm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:37 AM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?
>
> Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
> (VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
> (tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)
>
> Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.
>
> –
> Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
> http://www.alfasp.com
> File system audit, security and encryption kits.
>
> —
> NTFSD is sponsored by OSR
>
> For our schedule of debugging and file system seminars visit:
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>
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> —
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http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


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For what it’s worth, I was just able to install x86_64-win7sp1-chk in VMWare
Workstation 7.1.3-324285 and other than having to ‘a’ for a few assertions,
debugging (via VirtualKD) seems to work fine, at least at first glance.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin O’Brien [mailto:xxxxx@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:19 AM
To: ‘Windows File Systems Devs Interest List’
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Probably the best plan, or at least a very popular one.

I’m installing x86_64-win7sp-chk right now in that same version of VMWare;
I’ll let you know how it goes.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:14 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

No problem, I’ve spent a day trying to get several builds to work, but
seeing other were not successful at least
partially solves the issue - I’ll let it go.
Thanks all.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

Hmm. I’ve definitely gotten that one - the license error - before as
well,
but I don’t remember what I did about it, which makes me strongly think
that
I just gave up and went with a partial chk build.

Sorry I don’t have better.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:08 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

An 0x8E with 0xC0000420 (ASSERTS) bugcheck. Getting WinDBG to run with
these VMs is not working out for me (it’s
also not always working for any VM on this computer for some reason).
I could sometimes get past it, but after I get a license verification
error 0x80070002, which indicates either a
boot drive letter was changed (nope…) or that the default cryptography
provider is changed (again… it just got
installed :D). That one I can’t get passed :frowning: (the Microsoft\Cryptography
key mentioned in several articles does not
exist yet).

Dejan.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

> Most recently, yes - Win7 (RTM) x64 CHK in VMWare Workstation
7.1.3-324285
> (as well as a few 7.1.x-xxxx previous builds.
>
> Overall, I’d have to say that this success was a fairly exceptional
case,
if
> memory serves me correctly. I’ve had issues more often than not,
especially
> with older builds of the os, though if I recall correctly, that was
usually
> due to the same chk ACPI bugcheck that’s been around for years on some
> platforms.
>
> I haven’t yet tried with W7SP1.
>
> What are you seeing?
>
> mm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:37 AM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?
>
> Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
> (VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
> (tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)
>
> Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.
>
> –
> Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
> http://www.alfasp.com
> File system audit, security and encryption kits.
>
> —
> NTFSD is sponsored by OSR
>
> For our schedule of debugging and file system seminars visit:
> http://www.osr.com/seminars
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
> —
> NTFSD is sponsored by OSR
>
> For our schedule of debugging and file system seminars visit:
> http://www.osr.com/seminars
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
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Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


NTFSD is sponsored by OSR

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http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


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Forgot: the symbols also appear to be on
http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin O’Brien [mailto:xxxxx@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:20 AM
To: ‘Windows File Systems Devs Interest List’
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

For what it’s worth, I was just able to install x86_64-win7sp1-chk in VMWare
Workstation 7.1.3-324285 and other than having to ‘a’ for a few assertions,
debugging (via VirtualKD) seems to work fine, at least at first glance.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin O’Brien [mailto:xxxxx@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:19 AM
To: ‘Windows File Systems Devs Interest List’
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Probably the best plan, or at least a very popular one.

I’m installing x86_64-win7sp-chk right now in that same version of VMWare;
I’ll let you know how it goes.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:14 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

No problem, I’ve spent a day trying to get several builds to work, but
seeing other were not successful at least
partially solves the issue - I’ll let it go.
Thanks all.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

Hmm. I’ve definitely gotten that one - the license error - before as
well,
but I don’t remember what I did about it, which makes me strongly think
that
I just gave up and went with a partial chk build.

Sorry I don’t have better.

mm

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:08 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

An 0x8E with 0xC0000420 (ASSERTS) bugcheck. Getting WinDBG to run with
these VMs is not working out for me (it’s
also not always working for any VM on this computer for some reason).
I could sometimes get past it, but after I get a license verification
error 0x80070002, which indicates either a
boot drive letter was changed (nope…) or that the default cryptography
provider is changed (again… it just got
installed :D). That one I can’t get passed :frowning: (the Microsoft\Cryptography
key mentioned in several articles does not
exist yet).

Dejan.

Martin O’Brien wrote:

> Most recently, yes - Win7 (RTM) x64 CHK in VMWare Workstation
7.1.3-324285
> (as well as a few 7.1.x-xxxx previous builds.
>
> Overall, I’d have to say that this success was a fairly exceptional
case,
if
> memory serves me correctly. I’ve had issues more often than not,
especially
> with older builds of the os, though if I recall correctly, that was
usually
> due to the same chk ACPI bugcheck that’s been around for years on some
> platforms.
>
> I haven’t yet tried with W7SP1.
>
> What are you seeing?
>
> mm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:37 AM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?
>
> Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
> (VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
> (tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)
>
> Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.
>
> –
> Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
> http://www.alfasp.com
> File system audit, security and encryption kits.
>
> —
> NTFSD is sponsored by OSR
>
> For our schedule of debugging and file system seminars visit:
> http://www.osr.com/seminars
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
> —
> NTFSD is sponsored by OSR
>
> For our schedule of debugging and file system seminars visit:
> http://www.osr.com/seminars
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
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Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


NTFSD is sponsored by OSR

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http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


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I have installed W2K8 R2 on a VMWare VM. The install worked fine. I get a
bunch of ASSERTS from the display driver during boot but after that it runs
without any problems.

Bill Wandel

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Ayush Gupta
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:41 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

I have failed terribly in the past… Tried with Windows 7 and 2008 R2 on
both VmWare and Hyper-V. Checked build seems to have a mind of its own. The
installation itself failed with bug checks. :slight_smile: While it failed sometimes, it
did install other times.
So, then I moved to using checked build only on physical machine only. But
who likes that.

Regards,
Ayush Gupta
Software Consultant & Owner,
AI Consulting

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dejan Maksimovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:07 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] Checked builds in a VM?

Has anyone had success installing a FULL checked build inside a VM?
(VMWare/VBox) I could name quite a few issues with the installation.
(tried XP, Srv03 and W7SP1…)

Sorry for a bit offtopic, but I do not lurk in the ntdev list.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com) http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.


NTFSD is sponsored by OSR

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