It is intersting to see the "Peter has an invitiation for me to get in
trouble " :). Look at the cc: it is xxxxx@garlic.com.
Is it the email systems ? Or some trojan or some virus ? Or is it
intentional to let me know that I’m one of them those " Hold a flag up
straight that says BY ALL MEANS USE RANDOM BUILD ENV, SCREW YOUR FINAL
DRIVER TO BE DISPATCHED TO MILLIONS OF CUSTOMERS THAT YOU LOVE FOR THEIR
MONEY, HATE BEING REALLY PAIN IN THE *SS WHEN THEY COMPLAIN for not being
fully compatible".
If it is intentional, I would like confess here that “I’m never a believer
of random build”, never vouched for one, and never agree who says or try to
impose that on my head.
Coming back to “What the hell I’was doing, that raised this whole issue”.
-
Tried to build 5033 of wdf using bld and build. And got lot of
compilation errors. -
When there are tons of error, next best thing I applied is to use
ddkbuild, so that I can grab those error with mouse click. Of course I got
used to it, might be a bad habit for cmd-liners, but I could not kill the
XeroxPark’s inventor !. Can I ?. (S)he did a good job, I think !!! -
I never use dsp2whatever, because I simply dont know what I would be
getting into. And you all would see that I’m totally aloof of all these
discussion, but of course I did put my opinion about the “expectation of a
template from VS8 that would give us a direct build from IDE”.
Now why I’m even writing this ?. COUPLE MONTHS AGO I’VE SEEN AN EMAIL FROM
ONE OF THE GURU LEVEL person. Really really … guru, sent me a personal
email and said “Why you putting all these crap on this list”, what is your
motivation?." That led me stop asking question or responding on this list
for quite some time.
I like to meet that guru someday, and torcher to the bottom using all the
Mathematics I know. I know (s)he does not know as much as I know, and feel
like a real guru, and torcher that mind :-).
When I see "Peter’s article, I always think that “Pen is mighter than
sword”.
When I see this kind of discussion, I always feel like revert the above
thinking.
-pro
----- Original Message -----
From: “PeterGV (OSR)”
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
Cc:
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:43 AM
Subject: Re:[ntdev] DDKBUILD Update
> BobF wrote:
> >
>> C’mon, how do you really feel about this? IMO, I think its great that
>> you’re giving recommendations and helping inform people. However, I
>> think
>> the choice of tools and methods is free to be made - hopefully in an
>> informed way.
>>
>
> Yes, you are right. People can choose to do as they wish: Call
> ZwCreateFile at IRQL DISPATCH_LEVEL, call IoCompleteRequest(…) within
> their interrupt service routines, or build their drivers using GCC or
> Src2Dsp and an arbitrary compiler or set of options. These are all
> equally valid from an engineering point of view.
>
> Sadly, there is a group of folks who continue to insist that one CAN
> validly build a driver with random build methods. These people are NOT
> helping the less knowledgeable in the community.
>
> OTOH, if an engineer is sufficiently informed and has fully studied the
> problem, and chooses to build their drivers a different way for whatever
> reason… then that’s their engineering decision.
>
>
> Peter
> OSR
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
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