Adding a Custom File Attribute

Hi all,

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure.
If this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

Thanx in advance.

Regards,
kedar.


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On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 3:5:20, xxxxx@hotmail.com wrote:

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure.
If this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

I don’t believe it is possible. But on NTFS, you could use an alternate
stream with a special, unique name (use UUIDGEN to generate one).

Ralf.


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Extended attributes

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:00 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Adding a Custom File Attribute

Hi all,

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate
an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own
attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure. If
this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

Thanx in advance.

Regards,
kedar.


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Using extended attributes has some restrictions, though, because they are
not supported by FAT-32 or by any NTFS file for which a reparse point tag
has been assigned.

In addition, actually accessing the via the Win32 API is cumbersome (you use
the backup API to access them.)

If those restrictions are acceptable, this would be a reasonable solution.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
?
Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:26 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Extended attributes

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To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Adding a Custom File Attribute

Hi all,

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate
an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own
attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure. If
this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

Thanx in advance.

Regards,
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You sent an email about a possible FSD contract a few weeks ago. Any
news? I also got a message from Dan.

Jamey

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Tony Mason
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:47 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Using extended attributes has some restrictions, though, because they
are not supported by FAT-32 or by any NTFS file for which a reparse
point tag has been assigned.

In addition, actually accessing the via the Win32 API is cumbersome (you
use the backup API to access them.)

If those restrictions are acceptable, this would be a reasonable
solution.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
?
Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in
Boston!

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From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:26 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Extended attributes

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:00 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Adding a Custom File Attribute

Hi all,

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate
an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own
attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure. If
this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

Thanx in advance.

Regards,
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They found someone else to whom they are contracting it. While I’m dubious,
they are the client (and they did have your name!)

Never fear, though, the waters are always churning away and one of these
days we’ll work together on a project.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
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OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
?
Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:56 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

You sent an email about a possible FSD contract a few weeks ago. Any
news? I also got a message from Dan.

Jamey

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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Tony Mason
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:47 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Using extended attributes has some restrictions, though, because they
are not supported by FAT-32 or by any NTFS file for which a reparse
point tag has been assigned.

In addition, actually accessing the via the Win32 API is cumbersome (you
use the backup API to access them.)

If those restrictions are acceptable, this would be a reasonable
solution.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
?
Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in
Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:26 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Extended attributes

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:00 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Adding a Custom File Attribute

Hi all,

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate
an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own
attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure. If
this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

Thanx in advance.

Regards,
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Storage Networks? Yeah. They also contacted us. They told us that they
selected another company; I suspected it was OSR :slight_smile:

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Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

They found someone else to whom they are contracting it. While I’m
dubious, they are the client (and they did have your name!)

Never fear, though, the waters are always churning away and one of these
days we’ll work together on a project.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
?
Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in
Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:56 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

You sent an email about a possible FSD contract a few weeks ago. Any
news? I also got a message from Dan.

Jamey

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Tony Mason
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:47 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Using extended attributes has some restrictions, though, because they
are not supported by FAT-32 or by any NTFS file for which a reparse
point tag has been assigned.

In addition, actually accessing the via the Win32 API is cumbersome (you
use the backup API to access them.)

If those restrictions are acceptable, this would be a reasonable
solution.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
?
Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in
Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:26 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Extended attributes

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
xxxxx@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:00 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Adding a Custom File Attribute

Hi all,

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate
an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own
attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure. If
this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

Thanx in advance.

Regards,
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Did you really mean to discuss this on this list?

“Jamey Kirby” @lists.osr.com on 02/18/2002
10:48:12 PM

Please respond to “File Systems Developers”

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Storage Networks? Yeah. They also contacted us. They told us that they
selected another company; I suspected it was OSR :slight_smile:

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Are EAs the on-disk thing at all?
Am I wrong that they are just “additional context to CREATE” (like RDR uses for username/password) which is lost completely after
CREATE completion?

Max

----- Original Message -----
From: “Tony Mason”
To: “File Systems Developers”
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:46 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Using extended attributes has some restrictions, though, because they are
not supported by FAT-32 or by any NTFS file for which a reparse point tag
has been assigned.

In addition, actually accessing the via the Win32 API is cumbersome (you use
the backup API to access them.)

If those restrictions are acceptable, this would be a reasonable solution.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com

Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:26 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Extended attributes

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:00 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Adding a Custom File Attribute

Hi all,

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate
an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own
attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure. If
this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

Thanx in advance.

Regards,
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Some file systems store them as on-disk information. Other OS components
use them as out-of-band data to augment the basic create operation.

Initially, NTFS, FAT and HPFS all supported extended attributes. NTFS still
does (mostly) but FAT-32 dropped support for them. The FAT-16 support was
never particularly elegant - it stores ALL EAs in a single file.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
?
Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Maxim S. Shatskih [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:41 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Are EAs the on-disk thing at all?
Am I wrong that they are just “additional context to CREATE” (like RDR uses
for username/password) which is lost completely after
CREATE completion?

Max

----- Original Message -----
From: “Tony Mason”
To: “File Systems Developers”
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:46 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Using extended attributes has some restrictions, though, because they are
not supported by FAT-32 or by any NTFS file for which a reparse point tag
has been assigned.

In addition, actually accessing the via the Win32 API is cumbersome (you use
the backup API to access them.)

If those restrictions are acceptable, this would be a reasonable solution.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com

Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:26 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Extended attributes

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:00 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Adding a Custom File Attribute

Hi all,

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate
an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own
attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure. If
this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

Thanx in advance.

Regards,
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Thanks Tony, I have found the EASUP.C file.

Max

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:55 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Some file systems store them as on-disk information. Other OS components
use them as out-of-band data to augment the basic create operation.

Initially, NTFS, FAT and HPFS all supported extended attributes. NTFS still
does (mostly) but FAT-32 dropped support for them. The FAT-16 support was
never particularly elegant - it stores ALL EAs in a single file.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com

Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Maxim S. Shatskih [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:41 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Are EAs the on-disk thing at all?
Am I wrong that they are just “additional context to CREATE” (like RDR uses
for username/password) which is lost completely after
CREATE completion?

Max

----- Original Message -----
From: “Tony Mason”
To: “File Systems Developers”
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:46 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Using extended attributes has some restrictions, though, because they are
not supported by FAT-32 or by any NTFS file for which a reparse point tag
has been assigned.

In addition, actually accessing the via the Win32 API is cumbersome (you use
the backup API to access them.)

If those restrictions are acceptable, this would be a reasonable solution.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com

Hope to see you at the next OSR file systems class March 11, 2002 in Boston!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:26 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: Adding a Custom File Attribute

Extended attributes

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:00 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Adding a Custom File Attribute

Hi all,

Is there anyway to add a Custom attribute to a file? I want to associate
an
attribute to a file, currently there are some defined by windows like
FILE_COMPRESSED,FILE_ENCRYPTED and more. So can I define my own
attribute
and call set it to a file using FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure. If
this is not possible is there any alternate way to do this?

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