1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and reboot
the target machine,
The target machine will hang during boot, but still no response from windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but
improvements for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot the 1394
target?

Jason

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Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets
using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and
reboot
the target machine,
The target machine will hang during boot, but still no response from
windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is
there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar


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Hi Jason,
When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output repeatedly:

"
READ: Error 80070014.
READ: Wait for type 7 packet
"

(80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)

Shahar

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but improvements
for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot the 1394
target?

Jason

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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
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Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and reboot
the target machine, The target machine will hang during boot, but still no
response from windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar


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I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I remember
correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny. I fix it by
unplugging and replugging in the cables. Are you using a hub, as I’ve
also heard of some 1394 hubs causing problems in this area…

Jason

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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:52 PM
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Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output repeatedly:

"
READ: Error 80070014.
READ: Wait for type 7 packet
"

(80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)

Shahar

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but
improvements
for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot the 1394
target?

Jason

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets
using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and
reboot
the target machine, The target machine will hang during boot, but still
no
response from windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is
there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar


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Hello All,

Was the FireWire card disabled in device manager on target computer?
If FireWire card was enabled on target computer, if I recall correctly, it
is can lead to misbehavior of WinDbg.

Best regards,
Oleksiy

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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I
remember correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny.
I fix it by unplugging and replugging in the cables. Are
you using a hub, as I’ve also heard of some 1394 hubs causing
problems in this area…

Jason

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Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output
repeatedly:

"
READ: Error 80070014.
READ: Wait for type 7 packet
"

(80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)

Shahar

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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but
improvements for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot
> the 1394 target?
>
> Jason
>
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> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
> Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host
>
> Hi,
> Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break
> into targets using
> 1394 debugging.
>
> WinDbg just says:
> “Using 1394 for debugging
> Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
> Waiting to reconnect…”
>
> And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b”
> option and reboot the target machine, The target machine will
> hang during boot, but still no response from windbg.
>
> After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
> Is there something I need to configure so this will work on
> SP2? Is there a known bug in windbg for this?
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Shahar
>
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Hi Jason,
I’m not using a hub and I’ve tried re-pluging the cable and also plugging it
in other ports on the bus. Nothing helped. This problem is consistent,
rebooting any of the machines doesn’t work either.

Shahar

“Jason Shay” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I remember
correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny. I fix it by
unplugging and replugging in the cables. Are you using a hub, as I’ve
also heard of some 1394 hubs causing problems in this area…

Jason

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:52 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output repeatedly:


READ: Error 80070014.
READ: Wait for type 7 packet


(80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)

Shahar

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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but
improvements
for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot the 1394
target?

Jason

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets
using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and
reboot
the target machine, The target machine will hang during boot, but still
no
response from windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is
there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar


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Hi,
The OHCI is disabled on the target machine. Also, this configuration works
perfectly when I uninstall SP2 from the host machine, so it’s hard for me to
beleive that it’s mistaken.

Shahar

“Oleksiy Shatylo” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
> Hello All,
>
> Was the FireWire card disabled in device manager on target computer?
> If FireWire card was enabled on target computer, if I recall correctly, it
> is can lead to misbehavior of WinDbg.
>
> Best regards,
> Oleksiy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:15 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host
>>
>> I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I
>> remember correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny.
>> I fix it by unplugging and replugging in the cables. Are
>> you using a hub, as I’ve also heard of some 1394 hubs causing
>> problems in this area…
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:52 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host
>>
>> Hi Jason,
>> When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output
>> repeatedly:
>>
>> "
>> READ: Error 80070014.
>> READ: Wait for type 7 packet
>> "
>>
>> (80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)
>>
>> Shahar
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host
>>
>> It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but
>> improvements for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
>> you:
>> Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot
>> the 1394 target?
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host
>>
>> Hi,
>> Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break
>> into targets using
>> 1394 debugging.
>>
>> WinDbg just says:
>> “Using 1394 for debugging
>> Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
>> Waiting to reconnect…”
>>
>> And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b”
>> option and reboot the target machine, The target machine will
>> hang during boot, but still no response from windbg.
>>
>> After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
>> Is there something I need to configure so this will work on
>> SP2? Is there a known bug in windbg for this?
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Shahar
>>
>>
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Hi,
The OHCI is disabled on the target machine. Also, this exact configuration
works perfectly when I uninstall SP2 from the host machine, so it’s hard for
me to believe that it’s mistaken.

Shahar

“Oleksiy Shatylo” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
> Hello All,
>
> Was the FireWire card disabled in device manager on target computer?
> If FireWire card was enabled on target computer, if I recall correctly, it
> is can lead to misbehavior of WinDbg.
>
> Best regards,
> Oleksiy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:15 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host
>>
>> I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I
>> remember correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny.
>> I fix it by unplugging and replugging in the cables. Are
>> you using a hub, as I’ve also heard of some 1394 hubs causing
>> problems in this area…
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:52 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host
>>
>> Hi Jason,
>> When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output
>> repeatedly:
>>
>> "
>> READ: Error 80070014.
>> READ: Wait for type 7 packet
>> "
>>
>> (80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)
>>
>> Shahar
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host
>>
>> It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but
>> improvements for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
>> you:
>> Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot
>> the 1394 target?
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host
>>
>> Hi,
>> Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break
>> into targets using
>> 1394 debugging.
>>
>> WinDbg just says:
>> “Using 1394 for debugging
>> Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
>> Waiting to reconnect…”
>>
>> And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b”
>> option and reboot the target machine, The target machine will
>> hang during boot, but still no response from windbg.
>>
>> After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
>> Is there something I need to configure so this will work on
>> SP2? Is there a known bug in windbg for this?
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Shahar
>>
>>
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Hi,
I’ve installed SP2 on two other machines and got the same problem…
Is there anything I might be doing wrong?

Shahar

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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
I’m not using a hub and I’ve tried re-pluging the cable and also plugging it
in other ports on the bus. Nothing helped. This problem is consistent,
rebooting any of the machines doesn’t work either.

Shahar

“Jason Shay” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I remember
correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny. I fix it by unplugging
and replugging in the cables. Are you using a hub, as I’ve also heard of
some 1394 hubs causing problems in this area…

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:52 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output repeatedly:


READ: Error 80070014.
READ: Wait for type 7 packet


(80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)

Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but improvements
for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot the 1394 target?

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and reboot
the target machine, The target machine will hang during boot, but still no
response from windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar


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Upgraded the host machine like in your previous example, or upgraded
target machines to SP2?

Does this key exist on the target systems?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\PCI\Debug

Jason

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Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:51 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
I’ve installed SP2 on two other machines and got the same problem…
Is there anything I might be doing wrong?

Shahar

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
I’m not using a hub and I’ve tried re-pluging the cable and also
plugging it
in other ports on the bus. Nothing helped. This problem is consistent,
rebooting any of the machines doesn’t work either.

Shahar

“Jason Shay” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I remember
correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny. I fix it by
unplugging
and replugging in the cables. Are you using a hub, as I’ve also heard
of
some 1394 hubs causing problems in this area…

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:52 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output repeatedly:


READ: Error 80070014.
READ: Wait for type 7 packet


(80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)

Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but
improvements
for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot the 1394 target?

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets
using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and
reboot
the target machine, The target machine will hang during boot, but still
no
response from windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is
there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar


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I’ve upgraded the host machines to use SP2. My target machines are also
running with SP2, but the problems only started when I upgraded the host
machines.
I have no such key on my target machines. Am I supposed to?

Thanks,
Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:20 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Upgraded the host machine like in your previous example, or upgraded target
machines to SP2?

Does this key exist on the target systems?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\PCI\Debug

Jason

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:51 AM
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Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
I’ve installed SP2 on two other machines and got the same problem…
Is there anything I might be doing wrong?

Shahar

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
I’m not using a hub and I’ve tried re-pluging the cable and also plugging it
in other ports on the bus. Nothing helped. This problem is consistent,
rebooting any of the machines doesn’t work either.

Shahar

“Jason Shay” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I remember
correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny. I fix it by unplugging
and replugging in the cables. Are you using a hub, as I’ve also heard of
some 1394 hubs causing problems in this area…

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:52 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output repeatedly:


READ: Error 80070014.
READ: Wait for type 7 packet


(80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)

Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but improvements
for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot the 1394 target?

Jason

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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
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Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and reboot
the target machine, The target machine will hang during boot, but still no
response from windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar


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If that key isn’t there on the target system, then 1394 debug won’t
work. It means that the hal failed to find and initialize the 1394
controller (seen mostly on laptops/tablets, not so much desktops). What
is the make/model of the target system?

Which brings up an interesting issue. You said debug worked previously,
although the absense of they reg key suggests that it should never work,
regardless of host. Can you confirm this key’s existence on a 1394
debug session which is currently working for you?

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:45 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

I’ve upgraded the host machines to use SP2. My target machines are also
running with SP2, but the problems only started when I upgraded the host
machines.
I have no such key on my target machines. Am I supposed to?

Thanks,
Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:20 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Upgraded the host machine like in your previous example, or upgraded
target
machines to SP2?

Does this key exist on the target systems?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\PCI\Debug

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:51 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
I’ve installed SP2 on two other machines and got the same problem…
Is there anything I might be doing wrong?

Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
I’m not using a hub and I’ve tried re-pluging the cable and also
plugging it
in other ports on the bus. Nothing helped. This problem is consistent,
rebooting any of the machines doesn’t work either.

Shahar

“Jason Shay” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I remember
correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny. I fix it by
unplugging
and replugging in the cables. Are you using a hub, as I’ve also heard
of
some 1394 hubs causing problems in this area…

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:52 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output repeatedly:


READ: Error 80070014.
READ: Wait for type 7 packet


(80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)

Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but
improvements
for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot the 1394 target?

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets
using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and
reboot
the target machine, The target machine will hang during boot, but still
no
response from windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is
there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar


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Hi,
The key wasn’t there because I’ve moved to debugging using the com port
instead of firewire :).
When I boot the target machine with /debugport=1394 the key is there, but
still no debugging for me…
As I mentioned before, at some occasions when I try to break-in using
windbg, the target machine will hang but I will get no response from windbg.

Here is the contents of the registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\PCI\Debug]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\PCI\Debug\0]
“Bus”=dword:00000005
“Slot”=dword:00000009
“DebugAddress”=hex(b):08,01,02,00,00,00,00,00
“NoBus”=dword:00000000

Shahar

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:13 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

If that key isn’t there on the target system, then 1394 debug won’t work.
It means that the hal failed to find and initialize the 1394 controller
(seen mostly on laptops/tablets, not so much desktops). What is the
make/model of the target system?

Which brings up an interesting issue. You said debug worked previously,
although the absense of they reg key suggests that it should never work,
regardless of host. Can you confirm this key’s existence on a 1394 debug
session which is currently working for you?

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:45 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

I’ve upgraded the host machines to use SP2. My target machines are also
running with SP2, but the problems only started when I upgraded the host
machines.
I have no such key on my target machines. Am I supposed to?

Thanks,
Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:20 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Upgraded the host machine like in your previous example, or upgraded target
machines to SP2?

Does this key exist on the target systems?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\PCI\Debug

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:51 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
I’ve installed SP2 on two other machines and got the same problem…
Is there anything I might be doing wrong?

Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
I’m not using a hub and I’ve tried re-pluging the cable and also plugging it
in other ports on the bus. Nothing helped. This problem is consistent,
rebooting any of the machines doesn’t work either.

Shahar

“Jason Shay” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
I have seen this on my dev box from time to time, and if I remember
correctly, it means the bus state is a little funny. I fix it by unplugging
and replugging in the cables. Are you using a hub, as I’ve also heard of
some 1394 hubs causing problems in this area…

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:52 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi Jason,
When pressing ctrl-D in kd I’m getting the following output repeatedly:


READ: Error 80070014.
READ: Wait for type 7 packet


(80070014 = The system cannot find the device specified.)

Shahar

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shay
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

It is somewhat surprising, actually. We’ve seen nothing but improvements
for the 1394 debug experience in XPSP2. What happens if
you:
Start kd, and press “ctrl-D” in KD. Then boot the 1394 target?

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Shahar Talmi
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:47 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] 1394 Debugging with XP+SP2 host

Hi,
Since I installed SP2 on my machine I’m not able to break into targets using
1394 debugging.

WinDbg just says:
“Using 1394 for debugging
Opened \.\DBG1394_INSTANCE10
Waiting to reconnect…”

And nothing happens. When I’m starting windbg with “-b” option and reboot
the target machine, The target machine will hang during boot, but still no
response from windbg.

After uninstalling SP2 from the host everything works fine again.
Is there something I need to configure so this will work on SP2? Is there a
known bug in windbg for this?
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Shahar


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