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I'm starting to think Microsoft doesn't really want any outside help answering technical questions, preferring to let their bot-assisted Asian contractors handle everything. Just when I had finally found myself able to tolerate the dreadful experience on social.msdn.microsoft.com, I see they have now moved all of the interesting forums over to something called "Microsoft Q&A", which is just as bad but with an entirely new set of inexplicable navigation tools. New profiles, no history, no carryover of reputation. Tags instead of groups.
I shouldn't have to go out of my way to volunteer my help.
Tim Roberts, [email protected]
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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It’s become very clear that they don’t care about driver devs, that’s for damn sure.
Ah, yes... but NTDEV endures!
And you KNOW we love you here, Mr.Roberts.
Peter
Peter Viscarola
OSR
@OSRDrivers
If it is not for OSR and a few of you experts I can't imagine where I can get the help I need!
You guys here are SUPER expert, SUPER kind, SUPER patient and SUPER cool. OSR is irreplaceable.
I can imagine how many hours a day you spend helping others like me whom sometimes seem to even refuse to understand(talking to myself)! despite how much busy you are. And I can't ever imagine myself doing so.
Thanks for your kindness.
drivers 'whatever/forum' and it was a hopeless mess of nonsense. There are
only two useful forum resources: ntdev and stackoverflow, and stack is just
barely useful for drivers.
Mark Roddy
Don't forget to pick up your check at Dan's office on your way out today ;-)
Wait... did I PM that or did I just post that publicly?
Peter
Seriously: Thanks for the kind note. It's our pleasure to help out.
Peter Viscarola
OSR
@OSRDrivers
Well, I would say this is a pretty simplistic view of the situation. In fact, there are 2 totally unrelated issues here.
by some "Hanging Judge" with a whip in one hand and a noose in another, as well as with an expertize in the target field. This is particularly true for something as advanced as kernel-level development.
Otherwise, you are just bound to end up with a dump, infested with quadrillions of posters with VERY little (if any) knowledge in the target field, zero interest in learning anything new but a great willingness to bluntly attack and insult anyone who tries to argue with them and point out their mistakes to them, without even trying to provide at least some technical backup to their claims and statements. In other words, it would be the kind of NG that Truly Yours would not want to troll
Certainly, thea possibility of someone being in a position to arbitrarily apply moderation to the other people's posts (in fact, as any other form of unlimited authority) may have its own drawbacks. For example, as recently as yesterday I posted the excerpt from PDP-11 1969 manual, effectively making a certain NTDEV regular look "not-so-intelligent" (and"not-so-honest" either) yet another time. As you may have guessed, my post had, by some miracle, disappeared from NTDEV by the morning. Surprize, surprize......
Never mind - despite its obvious shortcomings and drawbacks, it is still better than unmoderated NG. Apparently, MSFT just does not want to hire a moderator with an expertize in the target field for every possible NG in existence.
Anton Bassov
Yeah, that pretty much summarizes what the MSDN forums became. I've grown quite discouraged by the quality of the questions, and what that means for our industry. A solid 10% of the posts are from people posting their homework questions. School ethics rules must be different in other parts of the world.
Tim Roberts, [email protected]
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
you guys here at OSR make my dream come true as a windows kernel mode driver programmer. Thank you guys by all means.
Just a short non-technical answer, Mr. Roberts.... Because this world is changing fast and not to the better. It never will be like before.
Microsoft is only a small particle in this soup. -- pa