Windows System Software -- Consulting, Training, Development -- Unique Expertise, Guaranteed Results

Before Posting...
Please check out the Community Guidelines in the Announcements and Administration Category.

Windows 8 and NDIS 5.1

Arnaud_Maye-2Arnaud_Maye-2 Member Posts: 33
Gents,



Is NDIS 5.1 supposed to operate well under Windows 8?



I am asking that because of two strange things:



1) When driver is installed with "auto start" service, the driver does
not start, I have the manually type "net start xxx" in order to get the
driver running. I need to type that once only.

2) On the next reboot, NDIS 5.1 does not find any NDIS devices, the
enumeration, list of devices is empty. If I do "net stop xxx" and then "net
start xxx" then everything works as a charm (up to the next reboot
obviously).



Anyone encountered such an issue? Does anyone know whether or not NDIS 5.1
is supposed to operate under Windows 8?



Thanks,

Arnaud

Comments

  • Jeffrey_Tippet_[MSFT]Jeffrey_Tippet_[MSFT] Member - All Emails Posts: 540
    NDIS 5.1 is supported on Windows 8... barely. NDIS 5.x has been deprecated for 5 years, and is slated for removal in the near future. Indeed, it has already been removed from Windows Phone and was never ported to Windows RT.

    Does your INF's AddService directive have SPSVCSINST_STARTSERVICE (flag 0x00000800)? This flag instructs the OS to start your driver service immediately after installation. (The service start type is only looked at during boot, and is not considered during installation/uninstallation.) These are the flags:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff546326(VS.85).aspx


    > NDIS 5.1 does not find any NDIS devices, the enumeration, list of devices is empty.

    This statement is not clear to me. Do you have an NDIS 5.1 protocol driver based off of NDISPROT, and you have a usermode app sending IOCTL_NDISPROT_QUERY_BINDING, which returns NDIS_STATUS_ADAPTER_NOT_FOUND for index 0?
  • Arnaud_Maye-2Arnaud_Maye-2 Member Posts: 33
    Hello Jeffrey,

    Sorry to come back late to your message, I needed to Win8 box to be
    available. I will try the SPSVCSINST_STARTSERVICE trick and report back to
    you. However we have never seen this problem on Windows 7, but maybe we had
    a reboot also. I will double check that and report back to you

    As far as the second point is concerned, I have indeed a ndisprot driver and
    an API. The API is calling DeviceIoControl() using
    IOCTL_NDISPROT_QUERY_BINDING and a binding index of 0. DeviceIoControl()
    returns 0 (error) and the error code from GetLastError() is 259,
    ERROR_NO_MORE_ITEMS. I tried to do that 5 times in a row, same problem

    Then I do net stop drv (windows tells the service was stopped successfully)
    and net start drv (windows tells the service was started successfully) and
    the problem is gone; DeviceControl is happy with binding index 0..

    The exact same code works fine on XP and Win7 and it looks like a colleague
    of mine don't have this problem on his Windows 8 laptop.

    So what is left? Faulty Win8 drivers for an Ethernet peripheral, obviously
    this is an old (4 years old) machine which was manufactured before Windows 7
    and Windows 8.

    Any comments are welcome.

    Thanks,
    Arnaud


    -----Original Message-----
    From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
    [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Tippet
    Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:30 PM
    To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
    Subject: RE: [ntdev] Windows 8 and NDIS 5.1

    NDIS 5.1 is supported on Windows 8... barely. NDIS 5.x has been deprecated
    for 5 years, and is slated for removal in the near future. Indeed, it has
    already been removed from Windows Phone and was never ported to Windows RT.

    Does your INF's AddService directive have SPSVCSINST_STARTSERVICE (flag
    0x00000800)? This flag instructs the OS to start your driver service
    immediately after installation. (The service start type is only looked at
    during boot, and is not considered during installation/uninstallation.)
    These are the flags:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff546326(VS.85).aspx


    > NDIS 5.1 does not find any NDIS devices, the enumeration, list of devices
    is empty.

    This statement is not clear to me. Do you have an NDIS 5.1 protocol driver
    based off of NDISPROT, and you have a usermode app sending
    IOCTL_NDISPROT_QUERY_BINDING, which returns NDIS_STATUS_ADAPTER_NOT_FOUND
    for index 0?



    ---
    NTDEV is sponsored by OSR

    OSR is HIRING!! See http://www.osr.com/careers

    For our schedule of WDF, WDM, debugging and other seminars visit:
    http://www.osr.com/seminars

    To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
    http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
  • Arnaud_Maye-2Arnaud_Maye-2 Member Posts: 33
    Hello,

    I tried to look further on the internet but I haven't found anything
    relevant.

    I have tried on five different windows 8 machine and I can only see this
    problem on one machine..

    Does it sounds familiar to anyone?

    Thanks,
    Arnaud

    -----Original Message-----
    From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
    [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Arnaud Maye
    Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:50 PM
    To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
    Subject: RE: [ntdev] Windows 8 and NDIS 5.1

    Hello Jeffrey,

    Sorry to come back late to your message, I needed to Win8 box to be
    available. I will try the SPSVCSINST_STARTSERVICE trick and report back to
    you. However we have never seen this problem on Windows 7, but maybe we had
    a reboot also. I will double check that and report back to you

    As far as the second point is concerned, I have indeed a ndisprot driver and
    an API. The API is calling DeviceIoControl() using
    IOCTL_NDISPROT_QUERY_BINDING and a binding index of 0. DeviceIoControl()
    returns 0 (error) and the error code from GetLastError() is 259,
    ERROR_NO_MORE_ITEMS. I tried to do that 5 times in a row, same problem

    Then I do net stop drv (windows tells the service was stopped successfully)
    and net start drv (windows tells the service was started successfully) and
    the problem is gone; DeviceControl is happy with binding index 0..

    The exact same code works fine on XP and Win7 and it looks like a colleague
    of mine don't have this problem on his Windows 8 laptop.

    So what is left? Faulty Win8 drivers for an Ethernet peripheral, obviously
    this is an old (4 years old) machine which was manufactured before Windows 7
    and Windows 8.

    Any comments are welcome.

    Thanks,
    Arnaud


    -----Original Message-----
    From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
    [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Tippet
    Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:30 PM
    To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
    Subject: RE: [ntdev] Windows 8 and NDIS 5.1

    NDIS 5.1 is supported on Windows 8... barely. NDIS 5.x has been deprecated
    for 5 years, and is slated for removal in the near future. Indeed, it has
    already been removed from Windows Phone and was never ported to Windows RT.

    Does your INF's AddService directive have SPSVCSINST_STARTSERVICE (flag
    0x00000800)? This flag instructs the OS to start your driver service
    immediately after installation. (The service start type is only looked at
    during boot, and is not considered during installation/uninstallation.)
    These are the flags:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff546326(VS.85).aspx


    > NDIS 5.1 does not find any NDIS devices, the enumeration, list of
    > devices
    is empty.

    This statement is not clear to me. Do you have an NDIS 5.1 protocol driver
    based off of NDISPROT, and you have a usermode app sending
    IOCTL_NDISPROT_QUERY_BINDING, which returns NDIS_STATUS_ADAPTER_NOT_FOUND
    for index 0?



    ---
    NTDEV is sponsored by OSR

    OSR is HIRING!! See http://www.osr.com/careers

    For our schedule of WDF, WDM, debugging and other seminars visit:
    http://www.osr.com/seminars

    To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
    http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer


    ---
    NTDEV is sponsored by OSR

    OSR is HIRING!! See http://www.osr.com/careers

    For our schedule of WDF, WDM, debugging and other seminars visit:
    http://www.osr.com/seminars

    To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
    http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
Sign In or Register to comment.

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Upcoming OSR Seminars
Developing Minifilters 29 July 2019 OSR Seminar Space
Writing WDF Drivers 23 Sept 2019 OSR Seminar Space
Kernel Debugging 21 Oct 2019 OSR Seminar Space
Internals & Software Drivers 18 Nov 2019 Dulles, VA